Struggling with Teenagers and Mess: How Can I Get My Kids to Clean Up After Themselves?

@josephtheprotector I agree the hair cut is extreme. But not washing their clothes and feeding them is disgusting? How. At 13 I could cook, clean and was pretty self sufficient. So being 17, and having to wash and feed yourself is not the end of the world.
 
@thelighttoall Washing and feeding your children is a basic necessity. It’s fine for children to learn life skills but it shouldn’t be used as a punishment and you don’t just stop parental duties because you aren’t happy with your child. By the NSPCC guidelines this would absolutely class as neglect for young children.
 
@xlaurax I’m a grown adult, why? How old are you? NSPCC also stated that neglect can happen at any age. Your parental duties don’t become non-existent once a child turns into a teen. You said you used this kind of thing as a punishment ontop of cutting her hair in her sleep, it would come under neglect because of this.
 
@manonfire6640 while I agree cutting hair is extreme and something that would never even cross my mind, not cooking or washing for a child who can do it for themselves is far from neglect
I feel like you haven’t parented teenagers yet?
 
@manonfire6640 u serious? She's already stated the "child" was 17 .... old enough to fecking move out 🙄 damn right I'd stop doing shit for them if they couldn't respect my house and my rules
 
@sf3612 Why have kids if you just want them to move out once they are “old enough?” So baffling. I am serious, yes. Some of the children she is suggesting those things be stopped are only young and SEN.
 
@pastorjeremylove Like I said, it’s fine to teach them life skills and have them doing these things for themselves from time to time, but not using it as a punishment is too far. She’s suggesting this to be done to not only a 16 & 15 year old but also a 13 & 9 year old. Also children with SEN.
 
Its not that she wasnt cooking or washing clothes because she could do it herself, its that she stopped doing it to punish the child. After cutting the childs hair.
 
@sf3612 OP has already said shes almost lost her kids to social services twice, had multiple mental breakdowns, had parenting courses, has 2 SEN kids and that she wasnt a good parent to her eldest 2 kids and was 'a vile person'. Suggesting methods of neglect to her really isnt the best is it?
 
@manonfire6640 all of my children are very well looked after. They are happy, successful in their own ways and mostly respectful, none is from fear. They know they are loved and they know when they are wrong. I would never do anything I knew my child couldn't cope with. I have never stopped being a parent. What I've suggested is my opinion and my actions. None of my children have died from it, none of them have called me an abusive mother and suffered mentally from it. Believe me they are not shy to speak their minds. I believe it all comes down to resilience and these days there is none. Have a good day Leeanne.
 
@manonfire6640 you just have to provide clothes, food, and water - you don’t have to cook it for them at those ages. I know from a friend who was told that by social workers and police! They advised that when she wasn’t in, allow 16 year old to let themselves in via back door. Have access to fridge (basics in, no goodies), water, downstairs loo and that’s all. She had to lock up rest of the house so he couldn’t get access without her there. It worked. He realised he needed to show some respect and gain his privileges back. Now a fully functioning adult and a decent husband and father.
 
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